Please Help! Question for Healthnet Users

parlamanda4
on 7/29/09 8:28 pm - Poway, CA

I'm pre-op trying to get RNY. I've gotten my gallbladder ultrasound, got my psych eval, seen the nutritionist, and been approved to get a consultation with a surgeon. I'm getting kinda worried about my insurance and wanted a little reassurance from the people that have gotten it approved. For all you Healthnet  people, how hard was it for you to get approved? As far as previous weightloss attempts, what did you have to have to get approved? Are they really strict about having a documented and nutritionist supervised weight loss before surgery? Any help would be most appreciated. Thank you!

Chris S.
on 7/29/09 11:26 pm - Chula Vista, CA
Sorry I can't help . . . but just wanted to say welcome . . .and best of luck on your journey! 

Chris


Travelin' down the road to skinny!
Diane C.
on 7/30/09 12:39 am - Highland, CA
You know, I didn't have Health Net when I had surgery, but I do now.  I am having back surgery next week, and I have found them to be extremely incomptent.  I have been calling my surgeons office for 3 days trying to find out if they had approval for one of the procedures that Health Net forgot to approval in the origional request.  Finally after speaking to the doctors office again, I called Health Net myself.  Health Net could not find the request so the doctor had to fax it to them.  I called and asked Health Net, DO I have approval for what they missed.  After waiting a few minutes the customer service rep, came back on the line and said, she couldn't tell me if what the doctor asked for was approved but a couple of new codes that were requested were approved.  Fast forward, I get the numbers called the docs office again, and yes indeed those were to ones.  Why not notify the doctor when they called.  Take the bull by the horns and call Health Net and ask them those questions.  They are not Gods, they work for you, so call that number on that cheap paper card they send and keep on them.  Wishing you the best

Diane
parlamanda4
on 7/30/09 9:26 am - Poway, CA

Thank you both!

Diane, I definitely know what you mean. It's like none of these people communicate with each other and I'm having to go above and beyond to get simple information out of them. I always call and ask questions if I have them but the guy I talked to just said that you had to have attempted weight loss in the past 2 years. I talked to one of my doctors and they made it sound like you need full supervised attempt or documented 6 months of weight loss attempts. So I don't really know what the case is. Maybe I'll call again and ask again. Thank you for the advice. I hope your surgery goes well!

CaliMom
on 7/30/09 5:08 pm
In the state of CA you do not have to do the medically supervised diet. The supervised diet is just a hoop and stall tactic that IPA and insurance use to delay or prolong patients getting WLS. The CA Dept. of Managed Health Care (DMHC) http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/ has a peer review on this very subject.

SUMMARY CONCLUSION 
There is no literature presented by any authority that mandated weight loss, once a patient has been identified as a candidate for bariatric surgery, is indicated. There is a mixture of results that question whether weight or truncal obesity is a risk factor for complications after bariatric surgery. The more analytic studies have not found that body mass index (BMI) or total weight is an independent risk factor for complications or death from bariatric surgery. 

No institution that has recently published data on bariatric surgery describes a protocol requiring weight loss between identification of the need for surgery and the surgery. Many institutions in California have published results of surgery with particular focus on factors that contribute to
 morbidity and mortality. No paper from a California institution mentions mandated weight loss before bariatric surgery. Nor does any literature regarding the treatment for the morbidly obese recommend continued weight loss during the period between identification of the need forbariatric surgery and the surgery. 

Mandated weight loss prior to indicated bariatric surgery is without evidence-based support.  Mandated weight loss prior to indicated bariatric surgery leaves the patient at increased risk from the patient’s comorbidities. Mandated weight loss prior to indicated bariatric surgery is not
 medically necessary. Mandated weight loss prior to indicated bariatric surgery would be deviant from the standard of care practiced in the United States and other published countries. The risks of delaying bariatric surgery, while not entirely known in the short-term, are real and can be measured. Any potential value of losing weight prior to bariatric surgery is theoretical and not supported by any data. An experimental study including fully informed consent to determine if there were a reduction in risks or other benefit from mandated weight loss prior to bariatric surgery is indicated. 
http://www.dmhc.ca.gov/aboutTheDMHC/org/boards/cap/Bariatric REV.pdf





  
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